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kevtherev
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Posted - 22 Jan 2006 :  21:48:33  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
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Leaving the Potters House

The dividing factor is that ex CFMers can freely leave whenever they want. People are not chained to the chairs. People come because thety want to, we don't "make" them. Most PH preachers say "the door swings both ways", and it does! The problem lies with the one who leaves not with the church. Many are so quick to come against the church! Why is this? Is this the fault of the PH? I think that what we as CFMers have to realize is that these people have made a shift in their spirit. They were once saying that the PH is great, and now they spit at us. Is it the fault of PH believers? I don't think so. I think it is evident, from the garbage that gets spread over the internet about the PH, that most people who leave for sin, or rebellion. Sure they might find another church and get saved again, but then they still point the finger at the PH. I think they don't realize the deceptive nature of sin. Like when Saul backslid, he became insane! He was not behaving rationally. He would bless David one minute and then try to kill him the next. This is double mindedness; they are unstable in all of their ways. It is sad to watch people go down this road. But one minute they are in the church hands raised, worshiping Jesus, the next they are shaking their fists at the church, the very people who reached out to them in the first place. This insanity is epidemic. The bible talks of those who leave; Alexander the coppersmith, hymenious, etc, they soon come against the church. They have to justify leaving the truth and following deception. I have seen these same types of people come back to the faith and be restored in the Potters House. It is a wonderful thing to see, and it is amazing to hear them say, I used to be so bitter, I hated God, I told lies about the church, I slandered the Pastor.

The people on the Slam site are mostly people who have turned from God, some have regrouped in a new churches. Unfortunately many believe the things they say as gospel. I was shocked at how over the years I have had to defend myself from good friends and family after an ex CFMer got in their ear. The lies and accusations were believed immediately. It is a sad thing that people in the world believe lies told to them. That is why people like Rick Ross believe and bad report against believers, they are spiritually dead and cannot discern truth.

The potter's house church is known for having good doctrine and zealous saints. This is a great thing and something to be glad about. I have met many wonderful believers in the PH people who love God and serve Him faithfully. It is rather embarrassing that some PH Christians would believe a report from a few outspoken backsliders on the internet, in stead of men and women of God, who are spirit filled.

The accusations against Pastor Mitchell are slander. Look at people who have left a Job, most the time they slander the old boss. This is the case of people who leave CFM, they say Pastor Mitchell is some psycho. Hey, if he is so wacky, how come there are about 1200 wonderful churches all over the world full of Holy Ghost filled people? Jesus said you would know them by their fruit. The world is being evangelized, people raised up, disciples serving Jesus, it is a powerful work for God. And you think that this is not going to be contested? We are in the last days. People are being deceived; there is a strong delusion in the earth today. Do you ever wonder why when people leave they now go to a church that they used to call "liberal". They now have relaxed their views on hell, and separation from hypocrites? They have accepted the "church world" as the true church, and hate those harsh, hell fire, potters house, fundamentalists? It is the Antichrist spirit in them. Most western countries don't experience persecution physically, but the devil uses people to slander, gossip, undermine, and lie about them. This is the tactic used by the group at slam the door, they say anything to make the reader feel that they are wrong about the church, they lie and slander, and then call you a liar and a slanderer, they talk against Pastors and men and women of God, so you feel like you can't trust them any more. Hey we are all human, but to say that the PH is a cult is just slander. I would challenge anyone to a public debate who claims that the PH is a cult. It is a stupid statement. I would debate them if they would reveal to me their lives and answer if they have committed sin leading to death since they left. They say Pastor Mitchell is a fag and has prostitutes. They lie, and you believe them? If someone went on the internet and called your mother a dirty ##### who has sex with animals, would that upset you? Well of course it would, you know that is not true. It would make you mad. In the same way these people are making assaults on the head of our fellowship. This is sin. I will not tolerate it and neither should you.

Like Paul the apostle, Mitchell has grown wiser and stronger because of the slander. The same thing happened to Finney, Luther, Wesley, and Booth. If these guys were here today, they would come against them too! It is a satanic attack. Like God, the Devil uses people. He does use fiery darts, but allot of the time they come through "inspired" people. Inspired by Satan. That is why when you read Slam the Door or any other gossip rag on the net, you feel despair, you feel God is holding out on you, you feel out of God's will, because Satan is using their lies to attempt to deceive you. If he can quench your faith he has won. If Satan can get you to doubt that He has appointed your pastor you will be caged in. If I was a homosexual and hated Potters House Christians, I would say, oh they are all liars, they are all deceived, they are all money grabbers, etc. But because he is a Homosexual, you would discard it as just nonsense, but because the people on the internet say "I was in the church" it is the lure that Satan uses to attract you to it. It gives them an air of superiority, but does it actually give them any credibility. Judas left the twelve, but would you believe what he says about Jesus? No, because you know of his departure and betrayal of Jesus, and the faith. Most if not all of the people on the net slandering the Potters House left the church and backslid, i.e. they committed adultery, fornicated, stole, lied, murdered, denied God, etc...Some have joined another church, but many are still unbelievers.

Most people on the anti PH sites will admit this! Does this not reveal that they have about as much credibility as Judas Iscariot? Yes or no. This is what is happening. These people stand violently against the Potters House, because the Potters House contains God's people, and God's people contain the Holy Spirit, and the Holy Spirit is God, they are coming against God. Judas kissed Christ and yet betrayed him. Many say "I still love Jesus" but they devour His people! Some of the last day's apostasy against the church is the usurping of God's appointed authority. They are imposters who claim validity, but usurp authority. It is a religious power that wants worship. They have resisted God, by resisting God's appointed people. They have betrayed friendships and the people of God, they have blasphemed God by calling His people a cult, and exhibit antichristian attitudes towards the church. God is building His church, but these people hate the church, therefore hating God! Is the PH a work of God? Are you saved in this church? They are part of the last days falling away. Just as the antichrist seeks to "wear out the saints of the most high" so too does the spirit behind these lies. Remember, there is a small shell of truth in their accusations, amongst the core of lies, but this is because we are actually human beings and not aliens from out of space. PH people actually do make mistakes, but thank God, we are moving on in power. The PH is not perfect and doesn't claim to be. The say the PH is a system that perverts God's character, so they are saying that you don't know Christ, you are too stupid to realize that you are suck in, and come and join us in our on fire churches (usually hyper Charismatic).

Remember the PH is made up of thousands of individual people. If there was say 100,000 people in the PH and say 5000 in leadership in some form, wouldn't you think that based on the law of averages that you would get the odd "bad apple" or "bad disciple". This is what they focus on. It is funny that allot of the things they claim are said by people who have themselve left. They now agree with each other on the internet. How ironic!



Who will you follow? God's people or the devils servants? I know where God wants me to be! It is the only logical decision.

http://www.pottersclub.com/articleshow.asp?art_num=36

nick
Commander

Australia
240 Posts

Posted - 17 Jun 2006 :  12:15:27  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
This was written over a year ago now. Time has proven that the Slam the Door group was a load of rubbish and that the backsliders are mostly total non believers now. The fruit speaks for itself. Backsliding is just the start of a life of fear, misery and evil.

Nick.

www.pottershouse.com

www.waymanmitchell.com www.pottershouse.com
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InTheShadows
Lieutenant Commander

USA
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Posted - 19 Jun 2006 :  07:23:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Kind of hard to follow what you're saying cause I don't attend your church but I do know this from experience; there is good and bad in every church/denomination. I've been to many churches and have seen this. You can have a good pastor but some in the congregation are doing their own thing or vice versa.

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nick
Commander

Australia
240 Posts

Posted - 09 Jul 2006 :  14:00:36  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
True. From experience I have found that disgrutled "Christians" need to move on with thier lives. That may sound harsh, but if you read John Beveres "Bait of Satan" book, you realise that Satan wants us to be filled with hatred and bitternes towards people, even Pastors. There is never a promise in the bible that we wont be offended, in fact the opposite is true, Jesus said, "offences must come"! We need to be mature and not children in this matter. We need to suck in past failiers and hurts and move on in victory. Only God can help you forgive. If you are in unforgiveness, you will not have a right relationship with Jesus, because unless we forgive, God cannot forgive us!

Nick.

www.pottershouse.com

www.waymanmitchell.com www.pottershouse.com
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nick
Commander

Australia
240 Posts

Posted - 09 Jul 2006 :  14:14:34  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Since I wrote this letter the group of 900 people who claimed to be Slam the Door have been discovered to be mostly compiled of about 5 people with multiple usernames. So this whole letter was targeted at a group I thought was real at the time but was later discovered to be a fraud.

The two main guys don't believe in God any more and openly blaspheme him.

Nick.

www.waymanmithcell.com

www.waymanmitchell.com www.pottershouse.com
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InTheShadows
Lieutenant Commander

USA
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Posted - 10 Jul 2006 :  01:39:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Very true about forgiving others that have hurt you. Sometimes it can be a very deep wound but with the Lord's help you can overcome those feelings and move on. As for me, I have leaned on God many times in this area and He has always been my rock and my shield, my fortress. What a comfort to know that God is always watching out for us even when men come against us.

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nick
Commander

Australia
240 Posts

Posted - 11 Jul 2006 :  10:57:09  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
I belive that it impossible to forgive totally without the God's help. God gives us grace (power) to forgive others.

Nick.

www.waymanmitchell.com

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