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kevtherev
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Posted - 22 Jan 2006 :  22:05:53  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Once Saved Always Saved?

It is amazing to me that many who leave the faith, become OSAS, once saved always saved. They believe that you CANNOT lose your salvetion. Most people at slam the door and other anti Potters House sites are OSAS. Here is a list of questions for you and hopefully if you are of this persuasion, you will look up each question prayerfully, and with an open bible. Study them carefully, then answer each question, according to the word of God.

1. Are the Holy Scriptures or the majority of popular teachers who hold to a particular doctrine the deciding factor that makes that doctrine correct (2 Tim. 3:16,17)? ___The Holy Scriptures ___Majority of popular teachers

2. Are the notes in a study Bible inspired, like the actual Scriptures, or can these notes reflect the erroneous views of the commentator(s)? ___The notes are inspired ___The notes can be wrong



3. Are religious creeds and confessions man-made and, therefore, possibly in error? ___Yes ___No



4. If a creed, confession, synod, etc. is contradicted by Scripture should we immediately reject it? ___Yes ___No



5. According to Psa. 119:99,100, does Scriptural insight and understanding come from having an earned doctorate degree in theology or by meditating in the Scriptures and obeying its precepts? ___Having an earned doctorate degree ___Meditating in Scripture and obeying its precepts



6. Since many with an earned doctorate degree contradict each other and themselves, doesn't this further prove spiritual understanding doesn't come that way? ___Yes ___No



7. The Bereans were commended for being teachable and willing to change, according to Scripture (Acts 17:11,12). ___True ___False



8. Dear reader, are you teachable like the Bereans? ___Yes ___No



9. If you were wrong about any teaching of the Bible, including the believer's security, would you change? ___Yes ___No (See Lk. 15:11-32 for #10 - #20)



10. Was the Prodigal Son dead and lost when he was sexually immoral (Lk. 15:24,32 cf. v. 30)? ___Yes ___No

Was that death physical? ___Yes ___No
Can the death the Prodigal experienced be only spiritual
death, since it came through sexual sin and is equated with being lost? See also Rom. 8:13. ___Yes, it can only be spiritual death ___No, it doesn't have to be spiritual death



13. Is it implied that the Prodigal was first spiritually alive before he became spiritually dead and lost through sin by the word again (Lk. 15:24,32)? ___Yes ___No



14. Did anyone or anything pluck him out of the Father's hand as promised in Jn. 10:28? ___Yes ___No



15. Did the Father's love, faithfulness or keeping power override the consequences of the Prodigal's sinful behavior? ___Yes ___No



16. Did the Father let him, of his own free will, walk out on him which led to his dead and lost condition? ___Yes ___No



17. Is the promise of not being snatched out of Jesus' hand (Jn. 10:28) in reference only to those who are following Jesus, verse 27? ___Yes ___No



18. Though the Prodigal Son was sealed as a son, did that mean he was always saved, even when he was in sexual immorality? (See also 1 Cor. 6:9,10; Rev. 21:8; 22:15.) ___Yes ___No



19. Does the Bible say Christians are sealed unto the day of redemption or saved unto the day of redemption (Eph. 4:30)? ___Sealed unto the day ___Saved unto the day



20. Can being sealed unto the day of redemption be an absolute guarantee of entering the kingdom of God in light of the Prodigal Son, Demas, Judas and others who were once saved? ___Yes ___No



21. In regards to Heb. 13:5, did the Father leave or forsake the Prodigal or did the Prodigal leave and forsake the Father to his own harm? ___the Father left ___the Prodigal left



22. If we reject God will he likewise reject us (Deut. 32:15 cf. v. 19)? ___Yes ___No



23. We show we reject God by not living holy lives (1 Thess. 4:7,8). ___True ___False



24. "... The LORD is with you when you are with him. If you seek him, he will be found by you, but if you forsake him, he will forsake you," 2 Chron. 15:2. What condition must we meet for God to forsake us?





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25. The phrases "once saved always saved" (OSAS), "once in grace always in grace" or "once a son always a son" are not actual quotes found anywhere in the entire Bible. ___True ___False



26. According to 1 Cor. 6:9,10 and Rev. 21:8, are all drunkards, all the sexually immoral, all greedy and all liars categorically unsaved, regardless who they are with no exceptions? ___Yes ___No



27. Are all homosexuals unsaved, according to 1 Cor. 6:9,10; Rom. 1:27; Gen. 19:4,5 cf. Jude 7 and Lev. 20:13? ___Yes ___No



28. By simple definition, is a person sexually immoral if he/she is presently sexually immoral, regardless of a past commitment to the Lord Jesus? ___Yes ___No



29. Is the implication that a sexually immoral person could possibly be a Christian a ramification of OSAS? ___Yes ___No



30. Is such an implication unscriptural (1 Cor. 6:9,10; Rev. 21:8)? ___Yes ___No



31. If OSAS was true, there would be saved sexually immoral people and unsaved sexually immoral people. In contrast, the Bible only mentions the sexually immoral and states that such a person is wicked, won't inherit the kingdom of God and will, therefore, be thrown into the lake of fire (1 Cor. 6:9,10; Gal. 5:19-21; 1 Thess. 4:7,8; Rev. 21:8). ___True ___False (See Lk. 8:5-15 and Mt. 13:3-23 for #32 - #37)



32. According to Jesus, do some people believe for a while then cease believing (Lk. 8:13)? ___Yes ___No



33. Is the falling away, which these same people experience in this parable, equated to the plant dying? ___Yes ___No



34. Did their initial belief (or faith) produce life? ___Yes ___No



35. Was this life spiritual, since it was produced by the word of God and came as a result of their own personal faith? ___Yes ___No



36. Was it persecution over the word of God which caused this type of person, who was previously saved, to fall away or die? ___Yes ___No



37. Is persecution a test that will cause some true Christians to apostatize or die spiritually? ___Yes ___No



38. According to the Bible, what makes us strong (Acts 20:32)? ___Persecution ___Word of God



39. When Saul of Tarsus was persecuting the church, was the church being destroyed or built up by that persecution (Acts 8:3)? ___Destroyed ___Built up



40. Did Jesus say many will turn away from the Christian faith at the end of the age because of persecution (Mt. 24:9,10)? ___Yes ___No



41. Does the standing firm to the end, as mentioned in Mt. 10:22, refer to disciples of Christ remaining faithful to Jesus during persecution, without disowning him? ___Yes ___No



42. Did the Lord Jesus or a cultist first teach, "He who stands firm to the end will be saved" (Mt. 10:22)? ___The Lord Jesus ___A cultist



43. Did Jesus say enduring to the end was necessary for salvation or for getting some reward, position in the kingdom, or fellowship with God? ___For salvation ___For reward, position, fellowship



44. Could Jesus have been kidding, joking, or exaggerating regarding our need to endure to the end for salvation's sake? ___Yes ___No



45. Do you believe what Jesus taught in this verse? ___Yes ___No (See 2 Pet. 2:20-22 for #46 - #53)



46. Did the people Peter wrote of escape the corruption of the world by knowing our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ? ___Yes ___No



47. Did they know the way of righteousness before they were entangled in sin for the second time? ___Yes ___No



48. According to Mt. 21:32 is Jesus the way of righteousness, as implied by Mt. 3:11 cf. Jn. 1:29-34? ___Yes ___No



49. Did they turn their backs on the sacred command? ___Yes ___No



50. Were these people at one time washed when they knew the way of righteousness and escaped the corruption of the world by knowing Jesus Christ? ___Yes ___No



51. At salvation are we washed in Jesus' blood (1 Cor. 6:11; Rev. 7:14)? ___Yes ___No



52. Could the people Peter wrote of have been washed in anything other than Jesus' blood? ___Yes ___No



53. Did the same people leave the straight way (2 Pet. 2:15), also called in verse 21 the way of righteousness? ___Yes ___No



54. Is it possible to lose (KJV) or forfeit (NIV) your soul, according to Jesus (Mk. 8:36)? ___Yes ___No



55. Are disciples of Christ likened unto salt that can lose its saltiness to the point that it is no longer good for anything (Lk. 14:33-35)? ___Yes ___No



56. Is it possible for a real Christian to believe in vain (1 Cor. 15:2)? ___Yes ___No



57. Does the true gospel of grace teach a Christian can believe in vain? ___Yes ___No



58. How can a Christian believe in vain (1 Cor. 15:1,2)?


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59. Do we have to hold firmly to Paul's message to be saved and not believe in vain (1 Cor. 15:2)? ___Yes ___No



60. Did Jesus teach sin could always keep a person from entering the kingdom (Mt. 13:41,42; Mk. 9:43-48; Jn. 5:29; Rev. 2:10,11; 3:16)? ___Yes ___No



61. In the aforementioned passages, did the Lord limit sin that would prevent our entrance into the kingdom to unbelief? ___Yes ___No



62. Did the Lord Jesus teach, "... anyone who says, you fool' will be in danger of the fire of hell" (Mt. 5:22)? ___Yes ___No



63. If OSAS was true, could Jesus teach this truth to all, including those already saved? ___Yes ___No



64. Did Paul repeatedly warn true Christians that certain sinful activities would cause them to "not inherit the kingdom of God" (1 Cor. 6:9,10; Gal. 5:19-21; 6:8; Eph. 5:5-7)? ___Yes ___No



65. Is sin, therefore, still an issue under the grace of the New Covenant? ___Yes ___No



66. When Paul taught Gal. 5:19-21 did he know that "neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons, neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, neither height nor depth nor anything else in all creation" could separate the Galatian Christians from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus, as stated in Rom. 8:38,39? ___Yes, he knew that ___No, he didn't know that



67. Is it, therefore, possible that he understood Rom. 8:38,39 to mean a Christian is unconditionally and eternally secure in the light of Gal. 5:19-21? ___Yes ___No, because he would not contradict himself

Was Paul a grace teacher in the truest sense ___Yes ___No
Did Paul fight against legalism (Gal. 5:2-4)? ___Yes ___No
Could such a warning as issued in Gal. 5:21 be legalistic if
it was similarly spoken directly to real Christians today? ___Yes ___No



71. Was Paul contradicting his freedom in Christ message by teaching Gal. 5:19-21? ___Yes ___No



72. Peter wrote, "Live as free men, but do not use your freedom as a cover-up for evil; live as servants of God" (1 Pet. 2:16). Under the Apostle Peter's freedom message, could he be allowing for an occasional act of getting drunk or being sexually immoral, as some OSAS proponents say is permissible? ___Yes ___No



73. Does it follow then, if someone teaches a freedom or liberty message that allows for an occasional getting drunk or act of sexual immorality, that he is teaching falsely and should be openly refuted? ___Yes ___No



74. Does the true Biblical grace or liberty message mean: You believe on Christ, then go do whatever you want? ___Yes ___No

Are God's commands burdensome (1 Jn. 5:3)? ___Yes ___No
"Perhaps when the people of Judah hear about every disaster
I plan to inflict on them, each of them will turn from his wicked way; then I will forgive their wickedness and their sin" (Jer. 36:3, NIV). Does a warning of judgment, according to this verse, aid a person to turn from evil? ___Yes ___No



77. Would the people of Judah have been at a disadvantage if they didn't hear the aforementioned warning? ___Yes ___No



78. Similarly, was it advantageous for Christians to hear Paul's repeated warning of the possibility of them still "not inheriting the kingdom of God," as cited in Gal. 5:19-21? ___Yes ___No



79. Did Paul seem concerned that he might discourage any Christian, even the new converts, to the point where they might give up by this type of repeated warning? ___Yes ___No



80. Should all true grace teachers be issuing this same type of warning today? ___Yes ___No



81. Have you ever heard an OSAS teacher issue the same type of warning to Christians, as stated in Gal. 5:21, which Paul repeatedly gave? ___Yes ___No

Is it an impossibility for them to do so? ___Yes ___No
Doesn't that prove that Paul's teaching about grace, sin and
the like is different than the OSAS message, since they can't possibly warn as Paul did in Gal. 5:19-21? ___Yes ___No



84. Though a warning is alarming when we first hear it, it is always advantageous to be warned, because it alerts us to a real danger. Regarding this advantage, aren't all people who listen to OSAS teaching at a major spiritual disadvantage, for this type of warning of not inheriting the kingdom of God will never be issued to a Christian and will even be flatly denied? ___Yes ___No



85. The Apostle Paul wrote, "This righteousness from God comes through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe," Rom. 3:22. The Greek reveals that the word believe used here is a continuous tense. If one does not continue in this belief, would he then meet this God- given condition for final salvation? ___Yes ___No



86. Did Paul believe that a true Christian could fall away from grace (Gal. 5:4)? ___Yes ___No



87. Is falling away from grace equated with Christ being of no value at all to the person previously saved (Gal. 5:2)? ____Yes ___No



88. Could such a person still be saved if Christ is of no value to him? ___Yes ___No



89. Did Paul believe we could lose our salvation by accepting a wrong salvation message, that is, a wrong message about justification (Gal. 5:2-4)? ___Yes ___No



90. Is it logical for the OSAS proponent to accuse the other side of teaching a works salvation, since Paul, the grace teacher, obviously taught in opposition to their view (Rom. 2:7; 8:13; 11:19- 23; 1 Cor. 6:9,10; 15:2; Gal. 5:2-4; 5:19-21; 6:8,9; 1 Tim. 3:6; etc.)? ___Yes ___No



91. Did the Apostle John teach that believing certain false doctrine could cause the Christian not to remain in Christ (1 Jn. 2:24; 2 Jn. 9)? ___Yes ___No



92. Will raging fire consume the enemies of God (Heb. 10:27)? ___Yes ___No



93. Were Christians God's enemies before they were saved (Rom. 5:10)? ___Yes ___No



94. Is it possible for a Christian to "become an enemy of God" again (Jam. 4:4)? ___Yes ___No



95. In light of Jam. 4:4, Heb. 10:27 and Rom. 5:10, could the Holy Spirit inspired writers of the Bible have believed in OSAS? ___Yes ___No 96. Who were Hymenaeus and Philetus (2 Tim. 2:17,18)?


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97. Were they destroying the faith of some Christians by their teaching (2 Tim. 2:17,18)? ___Yes ___No



98. Can certain false doctrine destroy a saving faith? ___Yes ___No 99. Did Paul hesitate to cite the names of false teachers (2 Tim. 2:17,18)? ___Yes ___No



100. Did Hymenaeus and Alexander shipwreck their own faith (1 Tim. 1:19,20)? ___Yes ___No



101. What did Paul tell Timothy to hold to so he wouldn't likewise shipwreck his faith (1 Tim. 1:19,20)? (1)


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102. Since Timothy was truly saved, then did Paul believe a Christian could shipwreck his faith? ___Yes ___No



103. Paul was in a shipwreck on his way to Rome (Acts 27:27-44). The ship he was in was broken to pieces (vv. 41,44). The implication is, that ship was beyond recovery. Paul used this same kind of description to describe what could possibly happen to the faith of a real Christian like Timothy's. ___True ___False



104. Did Paul teach that Hymenaeus and Alexander were apparently never really saved to begin with, since they shipwrecked their faith? ___Yes ___No



105. According to 1 Tim. 1:19,20, is it Scriptural or unscriptural to do so? ___Scriptural ___Unscriptural



106. Does Jam. 5:19,20 teach a Christian can wander from the truth? ___Yes ___No



107. Is it possible for a Christian brother to become a sinner by wandering from the truth (Jam. 5:19,20)? ___Yes ___No



108. Can that person return to God and get his sins forgiven? ___Yes ___No



109. Will that act of repentance save his soul from death (Jam. 5:19,20, KJV)? ___Yes ___No



110. Did Paul personally know of some younger Christian widows who turned from their dedication to Jesus and started to follow Satan (1 Tim. 5:11-15)? ___Yes ___No



111. Do you think if some present-day OSAS proponents would have observed these same younger, Christian widows that Paul referred to, they would have, unlike Paul, concluded that those women were never really saved to begin with? ___Yes ___No



112. Did Paul personally know of some Christians who were eager for money and consequently wandered from the Christian faith (1 Tim. 6:10)? ___Yes ___No



113. Did Paul contradict his own grace message when he stated the possibility of a young convert falling through the sin of pride into the same condemnation as the devil (1 Tim. 3:6)? ___Yes ___No



114. Is it possible that such a recent convert or candidate for overseer would then be unsaved? ___Yes ___No



115. Is the devil's condemnation in the lake of fire (Rev. 20:10)? ___Yes ___No



116. Could Paul have taught OSAS based on the possibility of a recent convert going to the lake of fire? ___Yes ___No



117. Did Paul believe the seal of the Holy Spirit would prevent such a new convert, as mentioned in 1 Tim. 3:6, from falling under the same condemnation as the devil? ___Yes ___No



118. Did Paul believe that God's sovereignty, love, faithfulness or keeping power for that convert would prevent him from falling under the same condemnation as the devil? ___Yes ___No



119. Did Paul believe Jesus' intercession, as mentioned in Heb. 7:25, would prevent the recent convert from falling under the condemnation of the devil? ___Yes ___No



120. Did Paul believe that because that new convert was one of the elect, he could not possibly fall under the condemnation of the devil? ___Yes ___No



121. Did Jesus teach that fruitless Christians are in danger of being "thrown into the fire and burned" (Jn. 15:1-6)? ___Yes ___No



122. Could the subjects of verse 6 be only Christians, since they were clean (v. 3), which is the same term used in Jn. 13:10 for forgiven? ___Yes ___No



123. Did Jesus teach that lukewarm Christians are in danger of being expelled from the body of Christ (Rev. 3:15,16)? ___Yes ___No



124. Did Jesus teach that we must be faithful "to the point of death" to receive the crown of life and not get hurt by the second death (Rev. 2:10)? ___Yes ___No



125. Is the second death the same thing as the lake of fire (Rev. 21:8)? ___Yes ___No



126. Therefore, must a Christian be faithful till the point of death to escape the lake of fire? ___Yes ___No



127. All who inherit the kingdom of God receive the crown of life. We know this since the crown of life is promised to those who truly love God (Jam. 1:12) and those who truly love God will inherit the kingdom of God (Jam. 2:5). The crown of life is, therefore, not something that only some Christians will receive, as taught by the OSAS teachers. ___True ___False



128. Since we must be faithful to death to get the crown of life, then we must also be faithful to death to be an overcomer and inherit the kingdom of God. ___True ___False



129. Did the Lord Jesus teach that unforgiveness in the heart of a Christian can negate his own forgiveness from God (Mt. 18:21-35)? ___Yes ___No



130. Should we discount this teaching from Jesus on the basis that it was given before the cross? ___Yes ___No



131. Did Jesus teach, "You must be born again" before he went to the cross (Jn. 3:7)? ___Yes ___No



132. Did Jesus teach if we are ashamed of him, he'll likewise be ashamed of us (Lk. 9:26)? ___Yes ___No



133. Did Jesus teach if we disown him before men, he'll likewise disown us before the Father (Mt. 10:33, NIV) and the angels (Lk. 12:9, NIV)? ___Yes ___No



134. How can one still be saved, if Jesus disowns him/her?


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135. Would it be possible for Jesus to disown us if we were never owned by him first through salvation? ___Yes ___No



136. Can true Christians disown Christ (Mt. 26:34; Jn. 18:25,27)? ___Yes ___No

Did Peter do this three times? ___Yes ___No
While some OSAS proponents in our day would say if you ever
disown Christ, you thereby prove you were never really saved to begin with, doesn't what happened to Peter clearly refute this? ___Yes ___No



139. Did Jesus give that threat/warning of disowning his disciples in Mt. 10:33 if they would disown him for some hidden reason, or because it was a real danger that could befall even the truly saved? ___Hidden reason ___Real danger for the truly saved



140. Did Paul also teach the same truth to others as Jesus did in Mt. 10:33 (2 Tim. 2:12)? ___Yes ___No



141. The if used in 2 Tim. 2:12 shows a real possibility of such occurring. ___True ___False



142. Is God faithful to his threats and warnings (2 Tim. 2:13)? ___Yes ___No



143. Could Paul have been teaching legalism or bondage or an unwarranted fear in 2 Tim. 2:11-13? ___Yes ___No



144. Did Paul know Jesus gave Mt. 10:33 before the cross? ___Yes ___No



145. Did Paul want Christians to be afraid regarding their spiritual relationship with God (Rom. 11:20,21)? ___Yes ___No



146. Could he have been trying to create an unwarranted fear in them? ___Yes ___No



147. Is one either in this healthy fear or in a dangerous arrogance regarding their security (Rom. 11:20-23)? ___Yes ___No



148. In light of Rom. 11:20,21, did Paul, with his grace message, dangerously over-emphasize the assurance doctrine as some are today? ___Yes ___No



149. Does 1 Jn. 5:12,13 say we can know we will go to heaven after we die or we can know at this moment that we have a present- tense possession of eternal life if we are believing and have the Son? ___Know we will go to heaven ___Know at this moment we have a present-tense possession of eternal life if we are believing and have the Son



150. For a Christian to reap eternal life must he sow to please the Spirit -- not his sinful nature -- and not give up (Gal. 6:8,9)? ___Yes ___No

Does sin separate us from God (Isa. 59:2)? ___Yes ___No
Can sin separate the true Christian from God to the point
where he dies spiritually and misses the kingdom of God (Rom. 8:13; Lk. 15:24,32; Gal. 5:19-21; 6:8)? ___Yes ___No



153. Paul declared that if a Christian lives according to the sinful nature he will definitely die (Rom. 8:13). Can this death be physical death, which would imply that if we would not live according to the sinful nature we would not die physically? ___Yes, it's physical death ___No, it can't be physical death



154. Must the die in Rom. 8:13 be spiritual death, as it is a direct result of sin and shows what happened to the Prodigal who died spiritually (Lk. 15:24,32)? ___Yes ___No



155. Is it possible to die spiritually if you were never first alive spiritually? ___Yes ___No



156. Does the Bible teach a human responsibility for the Christian under true grace (Col. 3:5; 1 Tim. 5:22; 1 Pet. 2:1; 1 Jn. 5:21; etc.)? ___Yes ___No



157. Can such a teaching regarding human responsibility be a violation to true grace? ___Yes ___No



158. Did Jesus say we must obey his commands to remain in his love (Jn. 15:10)? ___Yes ___No



159. Heb. 5:9 reads, "... he became the source of eternal salvation for all who obey him." Eternal salvation is given to those who obey God. ___True ___False



160. The unbelieving are not the only ones who will end up in the lake of fire (Rev. 21:8). ___True ___False



161. The Bible ends with a warning to Christians, that their share in the holy city (New Jerusalem) can potentially be removed (Rev. 22:18,19). ___True ___False



162. If such were an impossibility, this warning would be false and, therefore, the Bible would contain a form of deception. ___True ___False



163. If Rev. 22:19 is a valid warning, then can OSAS be true? ___Yes ___No



164. If a Christian during the reign of the Antichrist yields to the heavy pressure of the time and receives the mark of the beast and worships his image, what will be his/her eternal future state (Rev. 14:9-12)?


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Does this passage disprove OSAS? ___Yes ___No
If a Christian sows to please his sinful nature, will he
reap destruction as opposed to eternal life (Gal. 6:8, NIV)? __Yes ___No



167. While eternal life, for a Christian, is a present possession (1 Jn. 5:12,13), is eternal life also a hope (Titus 3:7), yet to be reaped (Gal. 6:8,9) in the age to come (Mk. 10:30) for only those who persist in doing good (Rom. 2:7) and don't grow weary and give up (Gal. 6:9)? ___Yes ___No



168. Must a real, Bible-defined Christian "hold firmly till the end" the confidence he had at first to share in Christ (Heb. 3:14)? ___Yes ___No



169. Do OSAS teachers openly declare this important truth? ___Yes ___No



170. Do Scriptures like Heb. 3:14 contradict the OSAS teaching? ___Yes ___No



171. Did Paul, the true grace teacher, write: "Don't you know that when you offer yourselves to someone to obey him as slaves, you are slaves to the one whom you obey -- whether you are slaves to sin, which leads to death, or to obedience, which leads to righteousness?" (Rom. 6:16). ___Yes ___No



172. Does true grace teaching promote holy living (Titus 2:11,12)? ___Yes ___No



173. On the other hand, can the false grace teaching promote immorality (Jude 4)? ___Yes ___No



174. In your opinion, is holy living or immorality promoted by the OSAS teachings that go out across the United States? ___Holy living ___Immorality



175. In your opinion, is holy living or immorality promoted by the teaching that David's sins of adultery and murder did not negate his salvation? ___Holy living ___Immorality



176. In your opinion, is holy living or immorality promoted by the teaching under OSAS that if a formerly saved person commits suicide, he will go to heaven? ___Holy living ___Immorality



177. Is suicide really premeditated self-murder that cannot be repented of? ___Yes ___No



178. Will all murderers go to the lake of fire (1 Jn. 3:15; Rev. 21:8)? ___Yes ___No



179. Is it possible for a suicide victim to go to heaven? ___Yes ___No



180. Do some OSAS teachers openly declare the possibility of a Christian being an alcoholic? ___Yes ___No

Is such a license for immorality? ___Yes ___No
If one denies that a particular teaching is a license for
immorality, does that mean it is not a license for immorality? ___Yes ___No



183. Is the view that David's sins did not negate his salvation a part of the OSAS doctrine? ___Yes ___No



184. Sometimes some of the more moderate OSAS proponents unwittingly imply that David was never really saved, since he committed sins of adultery and murder. ___True ___False



185. Can a truly saved person afterwards become an idolater (1 Cor. 10:7)? ___Yes ___No



186. Will all idolaters go to the lake of fire (Rev. 21:8)? ___Yes ___No



187. Can OSAS be true since people once saved can afterwards become idolaters and end up in the lake of fire? ___Yes ___No 188. Were the Lord's disciples first called Christians at Antioch (Acts 11:26)? ___Yes ___No



189. Are Jesus' disciples saved (Mt. 12:49,50; Lk. 14:26-33)? ___Yes ___No



190. Was the Apostle Judas Iscariot a disciple of Christ at an early point (Mt. 10:1,2)? ___Yes ___No



191. Was he the same kind of disciple as the rest of the Twelve (Mt. 10:1,2)? ___Yes ___No



192. Are Jesus' disciples his spiritual family (Mt. 12:49,50)? ___Yes ___No

Was the Apostle Judas Iscariot once saved? ___Yes ___No
Did Judas go to hell after he committed suicide (Mk. 14:21;
Jn. 17:12)? ___Yes ___No



195. If Judas was never saved to begin with, how was he chosen by Jesus to hold the highest office in the church, that of apostle (Lk. 6:12-16 cf. 1 Cor. 12:28)? ___He was obviously saved ___I don't know



196. Since Judas was once saved, but afterwards betrayed Jesus and went to hell after his death, can OSAS be true, since it only takes one Scriptural example of a person ever saved who later becomes unsaved to disprove OSAS? ___Yes ___No



197. Is one a murderer by a single act of murder (Num. 35:16)? ___Yes ___No



198. Is there a disclaimer clause for a person previously saved in Num. 35:16 or anywhere else in Scripture? ___Yes ___No



199. In the natural, we as heirs receive our inheritance when the giver dies. This, however, is not so in the spiritual! To receive our inheritance of the kingdom we must overcome (Rev. 21:7). ___True ___False



200. Totally unlike in the natural, when a person gets saved he changes his spiritual family and ceases being a child of the devil. In light of this truth, is it safe to reason from the natural to the spiritual as frequently done by OSAS proponents? ___Yes ___No



201. The Apostle Paul wrote: "See to it that no one takes you captive through hollow and deceptive philosophy, which depends on human tradition and the basic principles of this world rather than on Christ" (Col. 2:8). Can it be misleading, then, to reason from the principles of this world such as is frequently done by OSAS teachers? ___Yes ___No



202. If "once a son always a son" was Scripturally sound, then would it be impossible to get saved, since all unsaved people are sons of the evil one (Mt. 13:38)? ___Yes ___No

Can OSAS be true in either of its two forms? ___Yes ___No
Is OSAS a glorious truth as some call it, or a myth that
promotes unholy living and that needs to be boldly addressed and openly refuted as never before? ___Glorious truth ___Myth that promotes unholy living and that needs to be boldly addressed and openly refuted as never before.



205. The Apostle John wrote, "This is how we know who the children of God are and who the children of the devil are: Anyone who does not do what is right is not a child of God; nor is anyone who does not love his brother" (1 Jn. 3:10). According to true grace teaching, is it possible for us to know who the Christians are and who the unsaved are by their behavior? ___Yes ___No



206. Is there observable evidence of saving grace (Acts 11:23)? ___Yes ___No



207. If one accepts OSAS, is this ability to know one's spiritual family through behavior denied by the OSAS carnal Christian teaching that a carnal Christian lives indistinguishably from a lost person? ___Yes ___No



208. Since 1 Jn. 3:10 (and other verses) teach that we can know if one is saved or not by one's behavior, but this is flatly denied by OSAS teaching, is it possible for OSAS to be from the same spiritual source as 1 Jn. 3:10 and these other Scriptures? ___Yes ___No



209. The very first message taught after Adam's creation was that we will not die spiritually through sin (Gen. 3:4). The original teacher of this type of message is ___God ___The devil



210. Soon after Eve heard that first message on OSAS, did she sin? ___Yes ___No



211. Is it true that Eve didn't die spiritually until after she heard, through a false teaching, that she would not die spiritually through sin? ___Yes ___No



212. What caused Eve's behavior to change to disobedience?


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213. Does the type of message that would state you cannot die spiritually through sin promote sin? ___Yes ___No



214. Was Adam a son of God before he sinned (Lk. 3:38)? ___Yes ___No



215. Did God give his warning in Gen. 2:17 to a real son of God? ___Yes ___No



216. Was that same warning hypothetical or was it cited in reference to a very real danger that could occur? ___Hypothetical ___Very real danger



217. If one accepts the teaching today that a Christian can't die spiritually through sin, is he dangerously deceived as Eve was immediately before she died spiritually? ___Yes ___No



218. Did Adam also die spiritually when he sinned (Gen. 2:17)? ___Yes ___No



219. Can a son of God die spiritually through sin, according to Scripture? ___Yes ___No



220. Since the devil, our spiritual enemy, was so successful with the type of message as recorded in Gen. 3:4, does it make sense he would still be using it today to destroy souls? ___Yes ___No



221. According to the Bible, is it teachers proclaiming sound doctrine or teachers proclaiming falsehood who are divisive (Rom. 16:17; Jude 19)? ___Teachers proclaiming truth ___Teachers proclaiming falsehood



222. Are teachers who change the grace of God into a license for immorality divisive (Jude 4 cf. v. 19)? ___Yes ___No



223. Can teachers who change the grace of God into a license for immorality be in spiritual office as shepherds (Jude 12)? ___Yes ___No



224. Is it a serious thing to be the cause of a little one who believes in Jesus to sin (Mt. 18:6; Mk. 9:42)? ___Yes ___No



225. Can one's teaching be the cause of another sinning (Gen. 3:4)? ___Yes ___No



226. Is it safer and better to believe in a false security or the disturbing truth? ___False security ___Disturbing truth



227. Paul asked a question about grace, then answered it. He wrote, "What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin that grace may abound? Certainly not! . . ." (Rom. 6:1,2, NKJV). For OSAS proponents to cite this passage to downplay the seriousness of sin or to teach that grace allows for continuous sin is a gross distortion of the word of God. ___True ___False



228. Rom. 5:5 states God poured out his love into a Christian's heart, but can sin make love grow cold (Mt. 24:12,13)? ___Yes ___No



229. At the point of justification, we have peace with God (Rom. 5:1), but can we afterwards be at enmity with God again (Jam. 4:4)? ___Yes ___No



230. Jesus taught we can pass from spiritual death to spiritual life (Jn. 5:24), but did he also teach we can pass from spiritual life to spiritual death (Lk. 15:24,32)? __Yes ___No



231. Does OSAS teaching result in some strange interpretations of Scripture that can't possibly be correct? ___Yes ___No



232. Can you understand why many Christians, who firmly believe we are saved at the moment of a trusting and submitting faith in Jesus Christ, do not believe in OSAS and openly speak out against it for the sake of truth and souls? ___Yes ___No



233. Are you such a Christian? ___Yes ___No

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